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  • 1.  Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

    Posted 09-11-2012 11:15
    Hello,

    I am trying to come up with survey items appropriate for high school age subjects that act as a proxy for parent/household income. Examples might include: "How many bedrooms are in your home?" or "How many cars does your family have?" I would appreciate any suggestions or examples of questions(with references if possible) you have found to be effective. Thanks.

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    Tim Thorley
    Ph.D. Student
    Department of Management
    VCU School of Business
    301 W. Main Street, Box 844000
    Richmond, VA 23284-4000
    E-mail: thorleyte@vcu.edu
    Phone: 435 773 5760



  • 2.  Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

    Posted 09-11-2012 13:55

    Tim,

     

    Make sure you know if you what you want to measure is parental/household income or socioeconomic status. 

     

    For SES, you can use Duncan's Socioeconomic Index, which is measured in terms of occupations, in your case parental occupations.  It is three major categories (1) service occupations, (2) administrative support occupations, including clerical and (3) executive, administrative and managerial occupations.

     

    Duncan, O. D. (1961). A socioeconomic index for all occupations. In J., Reiss, Jr., (Ed.). Occupations and social status (pp. 109–138). New York: Free Press of Glencoe.

     

    Because this is a common measure in sociology and demography, you can look at how the census measures it or how other large data sets have measured it.

     

    I suspect that income is hard to measure indirectly since what people own or where they live may depend on their access to credit or transfers, subsidies, etc.

     

     

    Dr. Laura Guerrero

    Assistant Professor of Management

    Marketing & Management Department

    College of Business Administration

    University of Texas at El Paso

    500 W. University Avenue

    El Paso, TX 79968-0539

    915-747-5014

    lguerrero5@utep.edu

     

     

     

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    Hello,

    I am trying to come up with survey items appropriate for high school age subjects that act as a proxy for parent/household income. Examples might include: "How many bedrooms are in your home?" or "How many cars does your family have?" I would appreciate any suggestions or examples of questions(with references if possible) you have found to be effective. Thanks.

    --

    Tim Thorley

    Ph.D. Student
    Department of Management
    VCU School of Business
    301 W. Main Street, Box 844000
    Richmond, VA 23284-4000
    E-mail: thorleyte@vcu.edu
    Phone: 435 773 5760

     



  • 3.  Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

    Posted 09-11-2012 13:57

    Hi Tim;

    Why not just ask them for their zip code / postal code? You can then find out the average household income for that area from the census. This is fairly standard practice in economics.

    -Catherine

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Timothy Thorley
    Sent: September-11-12 11:15 AM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

     

    Hello,

    I am trying to come up with survey items appropriate for high school age subjects that act as a proxy for parent/household income. Examples might include: "How many bedrooms are in your home?" or "How many cars does your family have?" I would appreciate any suggestions or examples of questions(with references if possible) you have found to be effective. Thanks.

    --

    Tim Thorley

    Ph.D. Student
    Department of Management
    VCU School of Business
    301 W. Main Street, Box 844000
    Richmond, VA 23284-4000
    E-mail: thorleyte@vcu.edu
    Phone: 435 773 5760

     



  • 4.  Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

    Posted 09-11-2012 15:10

    > I am trying to come up with survey items appropriate for high school
    > age subjects that act as a proxy for parent/household income.
    > Examples might include: "How many bedrooms are in your home?" or
    > "How many cars does your family have?" I would appreciate any
    > suggestions or examples of questions(with references if possible)
    > you have found to be effective. Thanks.

    Some of these examples may be better indicators of debt than income or wealth.  It is not likely that adolescents really know their parents' income or family wealth in anything but a general sense.  In fact, in my national studies, there are many adults who have a difficult time telling the interviewers what they make per year.  For non-salary workers, hourly rate is what they know and so you also need hours worked per week or year.  Finally, many spouses do not even know what the other makes or their total family income.  

    In a survey I did on work and school among high school and college students, I asked separately about mother's and father's education using an 11 category measure. I thought they would more likely have a more accurate sense of their parent education.  But there is that unfortunate low correlation between education and income/wealth.  One can ask about occupations, but again many may not know what their parents really do unless it is something straightforward (e.g., nurse, carpenter).  

    It's been a while, but I believe I only asked about parent's education based on the Monitoring the Future Study.  If you aren't aware of this study, it is an annual national survey of high school students conducted by ISR at the University of Michigan since the mid-1970's. It's findings are widely cited and used for policy.  As far as I can tell with a quick search, it seems they still only ask students about their mother's and father's education.  Below are some links. The first is the main webpage for the study.  It gives contact information for the principal investigators.  You might contact one of them to see if they tried to measure what you want and, if not, why not.  My guess is that they would assess family income if they thought it was feasible by asking the students. The other links are to ICPSR where you can look through the variables and codebooks, though getting the questionnaire would be easier.

    http://monitoringthefuture.org/invest.html
    http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/SAMHDA/series/35
    http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/files/SAMHDA/PDF/30985-User_guide.pdf

    I suppose another option is to send a sealed questionnaire home with the students for their parents to complete and mail back, with the obvious issue of knowing who actually filled it out.  Or getting home phone numbers and calling parents to ask about some demographic background information in which income is embedded. Or use census data for geographic area assuming some heterogeneity in the neighborhoods (census blocks) the students come from.  Of course, that misses within area differences in income, which may be correlated with race/ethnicity, but may be better than nothing.

    But I would ask the Monitoring the Future folks what they might do to get family income/wealth data.  If they have it, and don't ask students, they may use census data. But being a national survey, there will be a fair amount of heterogeneity in their sample.  

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  • 5.  Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

    Posted 09-11-2012 15:36

    Some of the recent Monitoring the Future questionnaires can be obtained from the first link I sent.  Go to the following link and click on the page icons to the left:

    http://monitoringthefuture.org/pubs.html#refvols

    They don't ask students directly about family income/wealth in the this well-known study.  But perhaps there are some indirect measures.


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  • 6.  Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

    Posted 09-11-2012 19:16

    Hi Tim,

     

    If you can answer your question using SES, you might take a look at an in press Psych Review on the subject:

     

    Kraus, M. W., Piff, P. K, Mendoza-Denton, R., Rheinschmidt, M. L., & Keltner, D. (2012). Social class, solipsism, and contextualism: How the rich are different from the poor, Psychological Review, 119, 546-572.

     

    (It can be downloaded from the first author's website: http://www.krauslab.com/papers.html)

     

    Many studies cited there use a "ladder measure" of subjective SES, The MacArthur Scale of Subjective Socioeconomic Status. Participants rate themselves compared with others as being on one of 10 rungs of a ladder. It's well validated, and widely used:

     

    Adler, N. E., Epel, E. S., Castellazzo, G., & Ickovics, J. R. (2000). Relationship of subjective and objective social status with psychological and physiological functioning: Preliminary data in healthy, White women. Health Psychology, 19, 586 –592. doi:10.1037/0278-6133.19.6.586

     

    The advantage of this measure for your sample is that it does not require participants having an in-depth knowledge about their material circumstances (or those of their parents)

     

    There are likely many other possible measures contained in that article as well.

     

    Best of luck,

    Geordie

     

    Geordie McRuer

    PhD Student

    Organizational Behavior and Human Resources Management

    Rotman School of Management

    University of Toronto

    105 St. George St.

    Toronto, ON

    M5S 3E6

    Email: g.mcruer10@rotman.utoronto.ca

    Phone:  (416) 978-6372

     

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    Tim,

     

    Make sure you know if you what you want to measure is parental/household income or socioeconomic status. 

     

    For SES, you can use Duncan's Socioeconomic Index, which is measured in terms of occupations, in your case parental occupations.  It is three major categories (1) service occupations, (2) administrative support occupations, including clerical and (3) executive, administrative and managerial occupations.

     

    Duncan, O. D. (1961). A socioeconomic index for all occupations. In J., Reiss, Jr., (Ed.). Occupations and social status (pp. 109–138). New York: Free Press of Glencoe.

     

    Because this is a common measure in sociology and demography, you can look at how the census measures it or how other large data sets have measured it.

     

    I suspect that income is hard to measure indirectly since what people own or where they live may depend on their access to credit or transfers, subsidies, etc.

     

     

    Dr. Laura Guerrero

    Assistant Professor of Management

    Marketing & Management Department

    College of Business Administration

    University of Texas at El Paso

    500 W. University Avenue

    El Paso, TX 79968-0539

    915-747-5014

    lguerrero5@utep.edu

     

     

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Timothy Thorley
    Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:15 AM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] Proxy items measuring household income/wealth

     

    Hello,

    I am trying to come up with survey items appropriate for high school age subjects that act as a proxy for parent/household income. Examples might include: "How many bedrooms are in your home?" or "How many cars does your family have?" I would appreciate any suggestions or examples of questions(with references if possible) you have found to be effective. Thanks.

    --

    Tim Thorley

    Ph.D. Student
    Department of Management
    VCU School of Business
    301 W. Main Street, Box 844000
    Richmond, VA 23284-4000
    E-mail: thorleyte@vcu.edu
    Phone: 435 773 5760