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  • 1.  What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

    Posted 10-30-2010 10:17
    OB Colleagues,
     
    What is your preferred gratis first site to refer EMBA students considering a carreer change?  Not that the site would resolve the problem but it might help framing it,
     
    In about a fortnight will share your recommendations and any indication you may be willing to add about them.

    Many thanks




  • 2.  What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

    Posted 10-30-2010 13:55
    Alfredo-

    A great first stop is O*Net, and as a first cut using the vocational assessment tools and related occupations functions.

    Best,

    Dan
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    OB Colleagues,   What is your preferred gratis first site to refer EMBA students considering a carreer change?  Not that the site would resolve the problem but it might help framing it,   In about a fortnight will share your recommendations and any indication you may be willing to add about them. Many thanks
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  • 3.  What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

    Posted 10-30-2010 15:35
    About.com is a good start (e.g., http://careerplanning.about.com/od/careerchoicechan/Career_Choice_or_Change.htm), but there are several other good sites too (e.g., http://www.quintcareers.com/career_change.html or http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/careerchange).


    On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Alfredo Behrens <alfredobehrens@gmail.com> wrote:
    OB Colleagues,
     
    What is your preferred gratis first site to refer EMBA students considering a carreer change?  Not that the site would resolve the problem but it might help framing it,
     
    In about a fortnight will share your recommendations and any indication you may be willing to add about them.

    Many thanks





  • 4.  What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

    Posted 11-01-2010 13:10

    Alfredo,

     

    I would refer your student to a more academic source.  There is a great book by Brown and Lent that summarize various theoretical lenses on career choice and development.

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Career-Development-Counseling-Putting-Research/dp/0471288802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288631190&sr=8-1

     

    The problem with career choice is that it is often geared to high school students and your EMBAs are in a different situation.  Frameworks like SCCT (social cognitive career theory) and CIP (cognitive information processing) may be more helpful to them.

     

    Laura

     

     

    Dr. Laura Guerrero

    Assistant Professor of Management

    Marketing & Management Department

    College of Business Administration

    University of Texas at El Paso

    500 W. University Avenue

    El Paso, TX 79968-0539

    915-747-5014

    lguerrero5@utep.edu

     

     

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alfredo Behrens
    Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:17 AM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

     

    OB Colleagues,

     

    What is your preferred gratis first site to refer EMBA students considering a carreer change?  Not that the site would resolve the problem but it might help framing it,

     

    In about a fortnight will share your recommendations and any indication you may be willing to add about them.

    Many thanks




  • 5.  What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

    Posted 11-01-2010 15:17

    Alfredo,

     

    For MBAs who as Laura says are in a different position in life, I have successfully directed students to Career management & work-life integration: using self-assessment to navigate contemporary careers by Brad Harrington and Douglas T. Hall (2007).

     

    http://books.google.fr/books?id=MgH_YeFtC3MC&dq=hall+harrington+career+life&source=bl&ots=L4BVA0v8SB&sig=T5UHpR89UGfEhLoxKa5ZT916AgA&hl=fr&ei=YhHPTJDkN9S5jAfKjZTXBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAw

    Hope this helps!

     

    Best,

    Ariane

     

     

    Ariane Ollier-Malaterre, PhD

    Associate Professor

    Management and Strategy Department

    Head of research group Tr@jectoires - Contemporary P@thways of Career, Life and Learning

    Rouen Business School

    1, rue du Maréchal Juin, BP 215
    76825 Mont Saint Aignan Cedex, France

    + 33 6 70 47 64 37

    aom@rouenbs.fr

    International study day Work-life: Cross-national conversations, Paris, May 17, 2011

     

     

     

    De : Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] De la part de Guerrero, Laura
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    Alfredo,

     

    I would refer your student to a more academic source.  There is a great book by Brown and Lent that summarize various theoretical lenses on career choice and development.

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Career-Development-Counseling-Putting-Research/dp/0471288802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288631190&sr=8-1

     

    The problem with career choice is that it is often geared to high school students and your EMBAs are in a different situation.  Frameworks like SCCT (social cognitive career theory) and CIP (cognitive information processing) may be more helpful to them.

     

    Laura

     

     

    Dr. Laura Guerrero

    Assistant Professor of Management

    Marketing & Management Department

    College of Business Administration

    University of Texas at El Paso

    500 W. University Avenue

    El Paso, TX 79968-0539

    915-747-5014

    lguerrero5@utep.edu

     

     

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alfredo Behrens
    Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:17 AM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

     

    OB Colleagues,

     

    What is your preferred gratis first site to refer EMBA students considering a carreer change?  Not that the site would resolve the problem but it might help framing it,

     

    In about a fortnight will share your recommendations and any indication you may be willing to add about them.

    Many thanks




  • 6.  What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

    Posted 11-01-2010 16:08

    Dear Alfredo and colleagues,

     

    Your question is a poignant one for me.  My colleague and I have been teaching a Career Transitions seminar for UVA alumni (both B-School and all others) for over a decade now, 2-3 times a year.  In my experience, these people, average age in the forties, are not looking for academic overviews, rather, a practical model for making career decisions and then advice about finding options.  Our program is built on the award-winning model built at HBS by Tony Athos, Victor Faux, and John Kotter.  Namely, that a) people tend to be creatures of habit, b) jobs have multiple demands on incumbents, and c) one should look therefore for the best fit between self and job.  Jeff Edwards at UNC has studied fit in a variety of ways.  I still come back to the fit model.  So, we suggest three chunks:

     

    1.       Self-awareness (no single instrument is accurate enough or comprehensive enough, so use a lot, but rigorously)

    2.       Develop Options:  finding jobs options is a complex process, but bottom line is that information (not job hunting) networking is critical.

    3.       Make better decisions:  armed with a rigorous self-assessment and new tools for finding options, USE your self-assessment to make better fit choices.

     

    We had a site, CareerNextStep.com, going for 3-5 years.  The site was intended to be a stand-alone place where one could archive and access their career development activities including self-assessment, job search, and decision-making throughout one's career.  The site would calculate lots of things that were more tedious by paper/hand, add data, building a database.  But it's folded now that our CTO has gone on to other things, and we've been unable to find a replacement.  In its place, we've developed a paper-based web page for participants that let them download materials and slides, but there's no behind-the-scenes calculations.  Here is the site.  Note that the materials are copyrighted, please. 

     

    http://faculty.darden.virginia.edu/clawsonj/COURSES/CAREER_TRANSITIONS/CT_Home.htm 

     

    Note also that this is just for a 3-day seminar.  The longer version we used at HBS and here at Darden included some 25 instruments-again, the philosophy being that we can always add new and better insights to refine and polish their self-assessments. 

     

    SO, while this is not a "Free web-site" exactly, it is.  BUT the materials have costs associated with them, and this is attached to a seminar, and in that sense is "not quite" stand-alone.

     

    I hope you find this information modestly helpful.

     

    Jim

    James G. S. Clawson

    Johnson & Higgins Professor of Business Administration

    Darden Graduate School of Business, University of Virginia

    Tel: 434 924-7488

    Fax: 434 243-7680

    Mail: Box 6550, Charlottesville, VA 22906

    Packages: 100 Darden Boulevard, Charlottesville, VA 22903

    Web: http://faculty.darden.virginia.edu/Clawsonj

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Guerrero, Laura
    Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:10 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [OB-LIST] What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

     

    Alfredo,

     

    I would refer your student to a more academic source.  There is a great book by Brown and Lent that summarize various theoretical lenses on career choice and development.

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Career-Development-Counseling-Putting-Research/dp/0471288802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288631190&sr=8-1

     

    The problem with career choice is that it is often geared to high school students and your EMBAs are in a different situation.  Frameworks like SCCT (social cognitive career theory) and CIP (cognitive information processing) may be more helpful to them.

     

    Laura

     

     

    Dr. Laura Guerrero

    Assistant Professor of Management

    Marketing & Management Department

    College of Business Administration

    University of Texas at El Paso

    500 W. University Avenue

    El Paso, TX 79968-0539

    915-747-5014

    lguerrero5@utep.edu

     

     

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alfredo Behrens
    Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:17 AM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

     

    OB Colleagues,

     

    What is your preferred gratis first site to refer EMBA students considering a carreer change?  Not that the site would resolve the problem but it might help framing it,

     

    In about a fortnight will share your recommendations and any indication you may be willing to add about them.

    Many thanks




  • 7.  What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

    Posted 11-02-2010 05:13
    Hi Alfredo,

    i can recommend the Intelligent Career Card sort exercise based on Michael Arthur's work - it's used successfully with MBA students in the UK. Needs a bit of facilitation from the module leader or course director but it's a great tool to make them think in depth about their career. http://www.intelligentcareer.net/ for detail.

    Gina

    On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Guerrero, Laura <lguerrero5@utep.edu> wrote:

    Alfredo,

     

    I would refer your student to a more academic source.  There is a great book by Brown and Lent that summarize various theoretical lenses on career choice and development.

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Career-Development-Counseling-Putting-Research/dp/0471288802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288631190&sr=8-1

     

    The problem with career choice is that it is often geared to high school students and your EMBAs are in a different situation.  Frameworks like SCCT (social cognitive career theory) and CIP (cognitive information processing) may be more helpful to them.

     

    Laura

     

     

    Dr. Laura Guerrero

    Assistant Professor of Management

    Marketing & Management Department

    College of Business Administration

    University of Texas at El Paso

    500 W. University Avenue

    El Paso, TX 79968-0539

    915-747-5014

    lguerrero5@utep.edu

     

     

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alfredo Behrens
    Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:17 AM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] What to do when MBA students demand more attention that docents can give

     

    OB Colleagues,

     

    What is your preferred gratis first site to refer EMBA students considering a carreer change?  Not that the site would resolve the problem but it might help framing it,

     

    In about a fortnight will share your recommendations and any indication you may be willing to add about them.

    Many thanks