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  • 1.  If you use commercial test banks...

    Posted 10-27-2010 19:04

    To his indescribable dismay, a colleague here learned this week that students can easily obtain copies of textbook test banks from sites like this:  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cheap-test-banks-for-mcgrawhill.  I've never been a test bank user.  But if you (or your colleagues) are, this is a potential game-changer.  Thought you might want to know.

     

    --Marshall Schminke            



  • 2.  If you use commercial test banks...

    Posted 10-28-2010 14:33

    FYI - We forwarded this to our McGraw-Hill rep and here is her reply.  Like Marshall, I prefer to design my own exams, but this response still brings a sigh of relief.

     

    Carolyn M. Youssef, PhD

    Associate Professor of Management

    College of Business

    Bellevue University

    1000 Galvin Road South

    Bellevue, NE68005

    carolyn.youssef@bellevue.edu

     

     

    From: Birkenholz, Nichole [mailto:nichole_birkenholz@mcgraw-hill.com]
    Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:34 AM
    Subject: RE: If you use commercial test banks...

     

    I saw this web address over a year ago and asked about it- our legal department has shut this site down (quite some time ago) but apparently we can't do anything about making the link go away.

     

    Nichole Birkenholz
    McGraw Hill/Irwin
    Sales Representative
    800-228-0603 ext. 6159
    nichole_birkenholz@mcgraw-hill.com

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    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marshall Schminke
    Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:04 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...

     

    To his indescribable dismay, a colleague here learned this week that students can easily obtain copies of textbook test banks from sites like this:  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cheap-test-banks-for-mcgrawhill.  I've never been a test bank user.  But if you (or your colleagues) are, this is a potential game-changer.  Thought you might want to know.

     

    --Marshall Schminke            



  • 3.  If you use commercial test banks...

    Posted 10-28-2010 14:50

    For what it's worth, that doesn't bring me much relief – the original site may not be active, but it was only a link to an email address that is still likely active. And the link in the first post is but one of many out there

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/106856205/Cheap_Test_Banks_Solutions_Manual.html

    http://pdfcast.org/search/all/cheap-test-banks-for

    http://www.topix.com/forum/science/chemistry/T7HSQ5BDNK6IAUNQJ

    http://www.unp.co.in/f81/cheap-test-banks-for-text-books-103917/

    http://classifieds.lycos.com/sale-book-textbook/cheap-test-banks-and-and-or-solutions-manual-2223718513

    http://cheaptestbanksandsolutionsmanual.blogspot.com/2010/08/is-all-your-work-starting-to-pile-up-on.html

     

    etc. (and this was through a simple google search) – McGraw-Hill and other publishers can try to shut down the sites, but the reality is that 20 others will just pop up to replace it.

     

    /S

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Youssef
    Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:33 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...

     

    FYI - We forwarded this to our McGraw-Hill rep and here is her reply.  Like Marshall, I prefer to design my own exams, but this response still brings a sigh of relief.

     

    Carolyn M. Youssef, PhD

    Associate Professor of Management

    College of Business

    Bellevue University

    1000 Galvin Road South

    Bellevue, NE68005

    carolyn.youssef@bellevue.edu

     

     

    From: Birkenholz, Nichole [mailto:nichole_birkenholz@mcgraw-hill.com]
    Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:34 AM
    Subject: RE: If you use commercial test banks...

     

    I saw this web address over a year ago and asked about it- our legal department has shut this site down (quite some time ago) but apparently we can't do anything about making the link go away.

     

    Nichole Birkenholz
    McGraw Hill/Irwin
    Sales Representative
    800-228-0603 ext. 6159
    nichole_birkenholz@mcgraw-hill.com

    Create Your Custom Text   Connect   Technical Support   Online Catalog   Complimentary Copies

     

    McGraw-Hill is currently looking for professors who would be interested in writing textbooks, supplements, ancillaries, and/or media technology products in their area of expertise/research. If you would like more information on becoming an author for McGraw-Hill, please contact me.

    McGraw-Hill Higher Education respects your privacy. You can UNSUBSCRIBE from McGraw-Hill Higher Education commercial e-mail messages, which include offers for complimentary copies and reviews, by sending an email to mhhe_faculty_support@mcgraw-hill.com">mhhe_faculty_support@mcgraw-hill.com or sending a written request to Privacy Officer, 1333 Burr Ridge Parkway, Burr Ridge, IL 60527. To learn more about The McGraw-Hill Companies Customer Privacy Policy, please visit http://www.mcgraw-hill.com/privacy.html

     

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    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marshall Schminke
    Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:04 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...

     

    To his indescribable dismay, a colleague here learned this week that students can easily obtain copies of textbook test banks from sites like this:  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cheap-test-banks-for-mcgrawhill.  I've never been a test bank user.  But if you (or your colleagues) are, this is a potential game-changer.  Thought you might want to know.

     

    --Marshall Schminke            



  • 4.  If you use commercial test banks...

    Posted 10-31-2010 23:29
    Just FYI

    I forwarded Marshall Schminke's mail about the online access of test banks to the students. In response, one of the faculty members in my department took initiative and contacted the publishers, below is there prompt response.

    Kanu

    ***************************
    Kanu Priya
    Assistant Professor
    Department of Management and Marketing
    College of Business
    Arkansas State University
    Jonesboro, AR 72401
    Ph: 870-972-3430
    ***************************


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Karampelas, Dean [mailto:Dean_Karampelas@mcgraw-hill.com]
    Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:45 AM
    To: TINA QUINN
    Subject: RE: If you use commercial test banks...

    Thanks! The web page has already been taken down. Unfortunately, there are sites like this for all books and all publishers. We do have a group here that primarily works on getting these sites shut down immediately.

    Any more that you find, please send my way but for now the site below is done.

    Dean Karampelas
    Associate Marketing Manager
    McGraw-Hill/Irwin, Special Markets/Tax
    1333 Burr Ridge Parkway
    Burr Ridge, IL 60527
    Phone: 630-789-5164
    E-mail: dean_karampelas@mcgraw-hill.com

    www.DoMoreNow.com

    Come see what we're doing for you!


    -----Original Message-----
    From: TINA QUINN [mailto:TQUINN@astate.edu]
    Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:15 PM
    To: Karampelas, Dean
    Subject: FW: If you use commercial test banks...

    I think this might be of interest to you. By the way, I enjoyed the tax focus group very much!!

    Tina Quinn


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Kanu Priya
    Sent: Thu 10/28/2010 4:50 PM
    To: BusList
    Subject: If you use commercial test banks...

    I saw this a while ago and thought it might be an interesting (and maybe shocking to some) bit of information about test banks.



    ___________________

    Kanu Priya, Ph.D.

    Assistant Professor

    Department of Mgmt and Mrkt

    College of Business

    Arkansas State University

    Jonesboro, AR 72401

    Ph: 870-972-3430

    ___________________





    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marshall Schminke
    Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:04 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...



    To his indescribable dismay, a colleague here learned this week that students can easily obtain copies of textbook test banks from sites like
    this: http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cheap-test-banks-for-mcgrawhill. I've never been a test bank user. But if you (or your colleagues) are, this is a potential game-changer. Thought you might want to know.



    --Marshall Schminke

    --------------------------------------------------------

    The information contained in this message is intended only for the recipient, and may be a confidential attorney-client communication or may otherwise be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please be aware that any dissemination or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. reserves the right, subject to applicable local law, to monitor and review the content of any electronic message or information sent to or from McGraw-Hill employee e-mail addresses without informing the sender or recipient of the message.


  • 5.  If you use commercial test banks...

    Posted 11-01-2010 07:40
    I truly think that the best response is not to use test banks (this advice is coming from a textbook author whose publisher provides a test bank for my book).
    You can use the test bank questions to give you ideas or to get you started. But, it's best to write your own questions. That's what I do.
    The publishers can't keep up with these sites.

    But, here is another view - if a student truly studies the entire test bank (assuming it's large) and learns the answers to all of the questions, does that represent learning of the content domain?

    Linda K. Treviño
    Distinguished Professor of Organizational Behavior and Ethics
    Smeal College of Business
    402 Business Building
    Smeal College of Business
    The Pennsylvania State University
    University Park, PA 16802
    Phone: 814-865-2194 Fax: 814-863-7261
    Email: ltrevino@psu.edu
    ________________________________________
    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] on behalf of Kanu Priya [kpriya@ASTATE.EDU]
    Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:28 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...

    Just FYI

    I forwarded Marshall Schminke's mail about the online access of test banks to the students. In response, one of the faculty members in my department took initiative and contacted the publishers, below is there prompt response.

    Kanu

    ***************************
    Kanu Priya
    Assistant Professor
    Department of Management and Marketing
    College of Business
    Arkansas State University
    Jonesboro, AR 72401
    Ph: 870-972-3430
    ***************************


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Karampelas, Dean [mailto:Dean_Karampelas@mcgraw-hill.com]
    Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:45 AM
    To: TINA QUINN
    Subject: RE: If you use commercial test banks...

    Thanks! The web page has already been taken down. Unfortunately, there are sites like this for all books and all publishers. We do have a group here that primarily works on getting these sites shut down immediately.

    Any more that you find, please send my way but for now the site below is done.

    Dean Karampelas
    Associate Marketing Manager
    McGraw-Hill/Irwin, Special Markets/Tax
    1333 Burr Ridge Parkway
    Burr Ridge, IL 60527
    Phone: 630-789-5164
    E-mail: dean_karampelas@mcgraw-hill.com

    www.DoMoreNow.com

    Come see what we're doing for you!


    -----Original Message-----
    From: TINA QUINN [mailto:TQUINN@astate.edu]
    Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:15 PM
    To: Karampelas, Dean
    Subject: FW: If you use commercial test banks...

    I think this might be of interest to you. By the way, I enjoyed the tax focus group very much!!

    Tina Quinn


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Kanu Priya
    Sent: Thu 10/28/2010 4:50 PM
    To: BusList
    Subject: If you use commercial test banks...

    I saw this a while ago and thought it might be an interesting (and maybe shocking to some) bit of information about test banks.



    ___________________

    Kanu Priya, Ph.D.

    Assistant Professor

    Department of Mgmt and Mrkt

    College of Business

    Arkansas State University

    Jonesboro, AR 72401

    Ph: 870-972-3430

    ___________________





    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marshall Schminke
    Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:04 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...



    To his indescribable dismay, a colleague here learned this week that students can easily obtain copies of textbook test banks from sites like
    this: http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cheap-test-banks-for-mcgrawhill. I've never been a test bank user. But if you (or your colleagues) are, this is a potential game-changer. Thought you might want to know.



    --Marshall Schminke

    --------------------------------------------------------

    The information contained in this message is intended only for the recipient, and may be a confidential attorney-client communication or may otherwise be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please be aware that any dissemination or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. reserves the right, subject to applicable local law, to monitor and review the content of any electronic message or information sent to or from McGraw-Hill employee e-mail addresses without informing the sender or recipient of the message.


  • 6.  If you use commercial test banks...

    Posted 11-01-2010 09:56
    Linda,

    This is a great question! The way I've handled this issue in the past is by doing a variant of what you mentioned in your posting: I give students hundreds (literally) of multiple choice and short-answer questions as well as cases at the beginning of the semester and tell them the exam will include a subset of those. The questions are very diverse in terms of content and also format so that students are not able to simply "study for the exam." In my view, if they know the answers to all those questions, I am satisfied that my course's goals have been achieved. This approach is consistent with the training literature because these questions are "advance organizers" for the material they will be studying throughout the semester.

    All the best,

    --Herman.
    *****************************************************
    Herman Aguinis, Ph.D.
    Dean's Research Professor and
    Professor of Organizational Behavior and Human Resources
    Director, Institute for Global Organizational Effectiveness
    Department of Management and Entrepreneurship
    Kelley School of Business, Indiana University
    http://mypage.iu.edu/~haguinis/
    ****************************************************

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    > On Behalf Of Linda Trevino
    > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:40 AM
    > To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Re: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...
    >
    > I truly think that the best response is not to use test banks (this advice is
    > coming from a textbook author whose publisher provides a test bank for my
    > book).
    > You can use the test bank questions to give you ideas or to get you started.
    > But, it's best to write your own questions. That's what I do.
    > The publishers can't keep up with these sites.
    >
    > But, here is another view - if a student truly studies the entire test bank
    > (assuming it's large) and learns the answers to all of the questions, does
    > that represent learning of the content domain?
    >
    > Linda K. Treviño
    > Distinguished Professor of Organizational Behavior and Ethics
    > Smeal College of Business
    > 402 Business Building
    > Smeal College of Business
    > The Pennsylvania State University
    > University Park, PA 16802
    > Phone: 814-865-2194 Fax: 814-863-7261
    > Email: ltrevino@psu.edu
    > ________________________________________
    > From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] on
    > behalf of Kanu Priya [kpriya@ASTATE.EDU]
    > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:28 PM
    > To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Re: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...
    >
    > Just FYI
    >
    > I forwarded Marshall Schminke's mail about the online access of test banks to
    > the students. In response, one of the faculty members in my department took
    > initiative and contacted the publishers, below is there prompt response.
    >
    > Kanu
    >
    > ***************************
    > Kanu Priya
    > Assistant Professor
    > Department of Management and Marketing
    > College of Business
    > Arkansas State University
    > Jonesboro, AR 72401
    > Ph: 870-972-3430
    > ***************************
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Karampelas, Dean [mailto:Dean_Karampelas@mcgraw-hill.com]
    > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:45 AM
    > To: TINA QUINN
    > Subject: RE: If you use commercial test banks...
    >
    > Thanks! The web page has already been taken down. Unfortunately, there are
    > sites like this for all books and all publishers. We do have a group here
    > that primarily works on getting these sites shut down immediately.
    >
    > Any more that you find, please send my way but for now the site below is
    > done.
    >
    > Dean Karampelas
    > Associate Marketing Manager
    > McGraw-Hill/Irwin, Special Markets/Tax
    > 1333 Burr Ridge Parkway
    > Burr Ridge, IL 60527
    > Phone: 630-789-5164
    > E-mail: dean_karampelas@mcgraw-hill.com
    >
    > www.DoMoreNow.com
    >
    > Come see what we're doing for you!
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: TINA QUINN [mailto:TQUINN@astate.edu]
    > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:15 PM
    > To: Karampelas, Dean
    > Subject: FW: If you use commercial test banks...
    >
    > I think this might be of interest to you. By the way, I enjoyed the tax
    > focus group very much!!
    >
    > Tina Quinn
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Kanu Priya
    > Sent: Thu 10/28/2010 4:50 PM
    > To: BusList
    > Subject: If you use commercial test banks...
    >
    > I saw this a while ago and thought it might be an interesting (and maybe
    > shocking to some) bit of information about test banks.
    >
    >
    >
    > ___________________
    >
    > Kanu Priya, Ph.D.
    >
    > Assistant Professor
    >
    > Department of Mgmt and Mrkt
    >
    > College of Business
    >
    > Arkansas State University
    >
    > Jonesboro, AR 72401
    >
    > Ph: 870-972-3430
    >
    > ___________________
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    > On Behalf Of Marshall Schminke
    > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:04 PM
    > To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...
    >
    >
    >
    > To his indescribable dismay, a colleague here learned this week that students
    > can easily obtain copies of textbook test banks from sites like
    > this: http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cheap-test-banks-for-mcgrawhill. I've never
    > been a test bank user. But if you (or your colleagues) are, this is a
    > potential game-changer. Thought you might want to know.
    >
    >
    >
    > --Marshall Schminke
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > The information contained in this message is intended only for the recipient,
    > and may be a confidential attorney-client communication or may otherwise be
    > privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of
    > this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent
    > responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please be
    > aware that any dissemination or copying of this communication is strictly
    > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
    > immediately notify us by replying to the message and deleting it from your
    > computer. The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. reserves the right, subject to
    > applicable local law, to monitor and review the content of any electronic
    > message or information sent to or from McGraw-Hill employee e-mail addresses
    > without informing the sender or recipient of the message.
    >


  • 7.  If you use commercial test banks...

    Posted 11-01-2010 11:01

    Marshall and Colleagues,

     

    I imagine that I am very old fashioned.  I stopped using test banks back then when they used to come in print form in those thick large paper backs, including suggestions for teaching the material.  I stopped using them then because I found out that some students organizations, sororities, fraternities, athletics departments, etc. used to get a hold of those things to help "their students study."  I asked myself "how difficult is it to develop your own questions?," and decided that I can do better when I develop my own.  I don't even need to protect my tests and quizzes because the questions change in content and or form from one semester to the next.  I applied a similar rationale to the use of the published power points, so that I modified some of them and/or make my own slides, which somewhat force my students to take notes (The old fashioned thing again!).

     

    Thanks,

     

    Ivan   

     

     

    From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [mailto:OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marshall Schminke
    Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:04 PM
    To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [OB-LIST] If you use commercial test banks...

     

    To his indescribable dismay, a colleague here learned this week that students can easily obtain copies of textbook test banks from sites like this:  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cheap-test-banks-for-mcgrawhill.  I've never been a test bank user.  But if you (or your colleagues) are, this is a potential game-changer.  Thought you might want to know.

     

    --Marshall Schminke