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  • 1.  HLM question

    Posted 04-24-2010 12:51
    Dear colleagues,
     
    Can anybody tells me whether it's possible to test the influence of individual behavior on group level or organizational level outcome through HLM analysis?
    If not, any other method to testify?
    or any recommended papers or books where they mentioned this?
     
    Many many thanks,
     
    Barbara


  • 2.  HLM question

    Posted 04-24-2010 16:42
    I'm afraid your DV has to be at the lowest level of analysis so you can't test individual behaviors on group level outcomes. You have to aggregate the individuals. I find it often works best to include both the mean and standard deviation.

    Best of luck,
    Corinne
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    Dear colleagues,

    Can anybody tells me whether it's possible to test the influence of individual behavior on group level or organizational level outcome through HLM analysis?
    If not, any other method to testify?
    or any recommended papers or books where they mentioned this?

    Many many thanks,

    Barbara


  • 3.  HLM question

    Posted 04-24-2010 18:21
    Barbara-

    This could be of interest to you:
    Croon, M. A. & van Veldhoven, M. (2007): Predicting group-level outcome variables from variables measured at the individual level: A latent variable multilevel model. Psychological Methods, 12(1), 45-57.
    (As Corinne noted, aggregation to the higher level is also an option.)

    hth,

    torsten


    On 24.04.2010 22:42, Bendersky, Corinne wrote:
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    I'm afraid your DV has to be at the lowest level of analysis so you can't test individual behaviors on group level outcomes.  You have to aggregate the individuals. I find it often works best to include both the mean and standard deviation.  Best of luck, Corinne ________________________________________ From: Organizational Behavior Division Listserv [OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jing [barbarahan_cn@HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU Subject: [OB-LIST] HLM question  Dear colleagues,  Can anybody tells me whether it's possible to test the influence of individual behavior on group level or organizational level outcome through HLM analysis? If not, any other method to testify? or any recommended papers or books where they mentioned this?  Many many thanks,  Barbara    


  • 4.  HLM question

    Posted 04-25-2010 08:02
    Dear Barbara,

    I was thinking about this reference as well, but must admit that the
    content of that paper is complex. Please let me know if you manage to
    model this.

    Also, note that Schnijders & Bosker (1999; Multilevel Analysis: An
    introduction to basic and advanced multilevel modeling, Sage Publishers)
    also indicate that the effect of individual on group makes theoretically
    and statistically sense.

    Best wishes,

    Arnold Bakker



    > Barbara-
    >
    > This could be of interest to you:
    > Croon, M. A. & van Veldhoven, M. (2007): Predicting group-level
    > outcome variables from variables measured at the individual level: A
    > latent variable multilevel model. Psychological Methods, 12(1), 45-57.
    > (As Corinne noted, aggregation to the higher level is also an option.)
    >
    > hth,
    >
    > torsten
    >
    >
    > On 24.04.2010 22:42, Bendersky, Corinne wrote: I'm afraid your DV has
    > to be at the lowest level of analysis so you can't test individual
    > behaviors on group level outcomes. You have to aggregate the
    > individuals. I find it often works best to include both the mean and
    > standard deviation. Best of luck, Corinne
    > ________________________________________ From: Organizational Behavior
    > Division Listserv [OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jing
    > [barbarahan_cn@HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:50 AM To:
    > OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU Subject: [OB-LIST] HLM question Dear colleagues,
    > Can anybody tells me whether it's possible to test the influence of
    > individual behavior on group level or organizational level outcome
    > through HLM analysis? If not, any other method to testify? or any
    > recommended papers or books where they mentioned this? Many many thanks,
    > Barbara


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  • 5.  HLM question

    Posted 04-26-2010 02:20
    Barbara,

    The best way to do this is to model the independent variables at both
    the individual and group levels. You would do this by centering the
    independents around the mean at the individual level and modeling group
    intercepts at the group level. When this is done you model the
    individual and group level variance at the level at which they appear
    and thus avoid biased estimates. However, not all individual level
    variables (or at least measures) display significant variance at the
    group level. In other words, if your independent variables don't vary
    across groups (group means that is) then you can't estimate the impact
    on group level dependent variables. I think this approach is ideal but
    so far it's sparsely applied. Personally, I prefer using the mplus
    software for this but there are many other options. A less sound but
    acceptable (at least so far) approach is to aggregate the individual
    level variables to the group if this can be justified given your ICC
    values. The following paper may be of interest for you:

    David A. Hofmann & Mark B. Gavin: Centering Decisions in Hierarchical
    Linear Models: Implications for Research in Organizations (JOM 1998).

    Good luck with your research!

    Best regards,

    --
    Mathias Höglund

    Management and Organization

    mathias.hoglund@hanken.fi
    Tel: +358 (0)40 3521 454

    Hanken Svenska handelshögskolan
    Hanken School of Economics
    Arkadiankatu 22
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    http://www.hanken.fi

    Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:02:14 +0200
    From: Arnold Bakker<bakker@FSW.EUR.NL>
    Subject: Re: HLM question
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    Dear Barbara,

    I was thinking about this reference as well, but must admit that the
    content of that paper is complex. Please let me know if you manage to
    model this.

    Also, note that Schnijders& Bosker (1999; Multilevel Analysis: An
    introduction to basic and advanced multilevel modeling, Sage Publishers)
    also indicate that the effect of individual on group makes theoretically
    and statistically sense.

    Best wishes,

    Arnold Bakker



    > Barbara-
    >
    > This could be of interest to you:
    > Croon, M. A.& van Veldhoven, M. (2007): Predicting group-level
    > outcome variables from variables measured at the individual level: A
    > latent variable multilevel model. Psychological Methods, 12(1), 45-57.
    > (As Corinne noted, aggregation to the higher level is also an option.)
    >
    > hth,
    >
    > torsten
    >
    >
    > On 24.04.2010 22:42, Bendersky, Corinne wrote: I'm afraid your DV has
    > to be at the lowest level of analysis so you can't test individual
    > behaviors on group level outcomes. You have to aggregate the
    > individuals. I find it often works best to include both the mean and
    > standard deviation. Best of luck, Corinne
    > ________________________________________ From: Organizational Behavior
    > Division Listserv [OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jing
    > [barbarahan_cn@HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:50 AM To:
    > OB@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU Subject: [OB-LIST] HLM question Dear colleagues,
    > Can anybody tells me whether it's possible to test the influence of
    > individual behavior on group level or organizational level outcome
    > through HLM analysis? If not, any other method to testify? or any
    > recommended papers or books where they mentioned this? Many many thanks,
    > Barbara


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