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  • 1.  Comprehensive exam format

    Posted 01-31-2008 02:14
    The Univ of Memphis, where I graduated recently, has a similar exam format for the Major concentration: Three days with 6 questions each day (where you pick 3) -- five hours each day. The first day consists of the core courses for all Ph.D. students, the second day is OB, and the third day is HR.

    I think the system is silly. It would be much more sensible to have to write a comprehensive paper for publication than exam.

    As I told the professors, if I made an A in the class, then why do I then have to prove that I made an A in the class again? If I don't pass a part of the exam, is that a reflection of my lack of interest in a particular part of OB/HR or is it a lack of training by the professors who were teaching me?

    Since the teachers were excellent, I think it would have been more an evidence of a lack of interest in a particular area of the OB/HR program. However, I passed, but the stress and illogic of the situation still irritate me, as you can tell.

    I encourage all those considering revampting the comprehensive exam to consider alternative methods which make logical sense rather than subjecting the student to such an exam.

    By the way, as you can imagine, the thoughts I express are my own, and not those of the Univ of Memphis! : )

    Regards,
    Karen



    Karen Moustafa Leonard, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Management
    Doermer School of Business & Management Sciences
    Indiana University-Purdue University Fort Wayne
    Fort Wayne, IN 46805-1499
    Phone: 260-481-6491 or cell 260-417-8692
    Fax 260-481-6879
    Email: moustafk@ipfw.edu
    ________________________________
    "If we keep doing what we're doing, we're going to keep getting what we're getting." - Stephen R. Covey


  • 2.  Comprehensive exam format

    Posted 01-31-2008 07:50
    We did not have open book exams at U.C.F. So comprehensive exams required us to pull it all together and have key publications and literatures on the top of our mind. Actually, while hard, it was very useful. I can still reap benefits from it today, Anke

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    Subject: Comprehensive exam format

    The Univ of Memphis, where I graduated recently, has a similar exam format for the Major concentration: Three days with 6 questions each day (where you pick 3) -- five hours each day. The first day consists of the core courses for all Ph.D. students, the second day is OB, and the third day is HR.

    I think the system is silly. It would be much more sensible to have to write a comprehensive paper for publication than exam.

    As I told the professors, if I made an A in the class, then why do I then have to prove that I made an A in the class again? If I don't pass a part of the exam, is that a reflection of my lack of interest in a particular part of OB/HR or is it a lack of training by the professors who were teaching me?

    Since the teachers were excellent, I think it would have been more an evidence of a lack of interest in a particular area of the OB/HR program. However, I passed, but the stress and illogic of the situation still irritate me, as you can tell.

    I encourage all those considering revampting the comprehensive exam to consider alternative methods which make logical sense rather than subjecting the student to such an exam.

    By the way, as you can imagine, the thoughts I express are my own, and not those of the Univ of Memphis! : )

    Regards,
    Karen



    Karen Moustafa Leonard, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Management
    Doermer School of Business & Management Sciences
    Indiana University-Purdue University Fort Wayne
    Fort Wayne, IN 46805-1499
    Phone: 260-481-6491 or cell 260-417-8692
    Fax 260-481-6879
    Email: moustafk@ipfw.edu
    ________________________________
    "If we keep doing what we're doing, we're going to keep getting what we're getting." - Stephen R. Covey


  • 3.  Comprehensive exam format

    Posted 01-31-2008 13:52
    At The University of Texas Pan American, we had 3 sets of exams, no
    books/notes were allowed except for one research methods article critique
    question. The exams were a week apart, approximately 5 hours, with Research
    Methods on Friday, International Business on Saturday, and the concentration
    area (Management, Marketing, Finance, Accounting, Economics) the following
    Saturday. The questions were submitted to the student's committee by the
    graduate faculty, and the committee decided on which questions to include,
    although the Research Methods section was pretty much uniform with slight
    variations between students concentrating in Management/Marketing and
    Economics/Finance. There was an expectation that all the questions would
    come from the courses the students took, but there was no guarantee, as it
    was in my case: I had a few questions which were not discussed in any of the
    courses I took. We were expected to have an understanding of the literature
    in each of the three areas, whether we enrolled in the specific course or
    not.

    The exam format was modified a couple of years ago. Now the Research Methods
    exam is taken when the students complete the required Research
    Methods/Multivariate Stats courses - which I think is better because it
    serves as a preliminary comps and the knowledge is still fresh.

    I hope this helps.

    Karen,

    No matter how silly you think the idea of "comps" is, please remember that
    it is also a rite of passage... After all, how silly do you think is the
    academic regalia? :) We are all a little silly in that sense that we all
    play the Glass Bead Game...

    Sincerely,

    H. Ulas Ograk
    Assistant Professor of Management
    The University of Louisiana at Monroe
    700 University Avenue
    Monroe, LA 71203
    (318) 342 1201 - office
    (318) 342 1101 - fax
    ograk@ulm.edu


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    Subject: Comprehensive exam format

    The Univ of Memphis, where I graduated recently, has a similar exam format
    for the Major concentration: Three days with 6 questions each day (where
    you pick 3) -- five hours each day. The first day consists of the core
    courses for all Ph.D. students, the second day is OB, and the third day is
    HR.

    I think the system is silly. It would be much more sensible to have to
    write a comprehensive paper for publication than exam.

    As I told the professors, if I made an A in the class, then why do I then
    have to prove that I made an A in the class again? If I don't pass a part
    of the exam, is that a reflection of my lack of interest in a particular
    part of OB/HR or is it a lack of training by the professors who were
    teaching me?

    Since the teachers were excellent, I think it would have been more an
    evidence of a lack of interest in a particular area of the OB/HR program.
    However, I passed, but the stress and illogic of the situation still
    irritate me, as you can tell.

    I encourage all those considering revampting the comprehensive exam to
    consider alternative methods which make logical sense rather than subjecting
    the student to such an exam.

    By the way, as you can imagine, the thoughts I express are my own, and not
    those of the Univ of Memphis! : )

    Regards,
    Karen



    Karen Moustafa Leonard, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Management
    Doermer School of Business & Management Sciences
    Indiana University-Purdue University Fort Wayne
    Fort Wayne, IN 46805-1499
    Phone: 260-481-6491 or cell 260-417-8692
    Fax 260-481-6879
    Email: moustafk@ipfw.edu
    ________________________________
    "If we keep doing what we're doing, we're going to keep getting what we're
    getting." - Stephen R. Covey